tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6115345479350954256.post1584738937852635149..comments2023-10-14T15:52:29.871+01:00Comments on Tango commuter: Tango foxtrotTangocommuterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14060601718946750364noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6115345479350954256.post-60261702830007075052015-02-08T23:37:03.082+00:002015-02-08T23:37:03.082+00:00JohnM, sorry, can't follow your comments on Vi...JohnM, sorry, can't follow your comments on Victor Sylvester. Please read my post again! I drew attention to Osvaldo Cartery's identification of a dance he called foxtrot that he danced when younger, and that people who only claimed to have been around at the time wouldn't know. I wondered what the dance was like and asked if anyone could point me to any video of it. <br /><br />If you think Osvaldo got it all wrong, take it up with him, not with me!Tangocommuterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14060601718946750364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6115345479350954256.post-20831800569111485582015-01-30T18:23:25.621+00:002015-01-30T18:23:25.621+00:00Thanks, JohnM. I get your point, but I don't a...Thanks, JohnM. I get your point, but I don't agree that there's no naming and standardising of dance in Argentina. There's a dance called tango, for a start, and although there's no 'official' standard of it, it's fairly consistent from milonga to milonga in BsAs. & Osvaldo and Coca seem quite convinced there was a dance called foxtrot that wasn't the same as tango, and Canaro and others recorded the music. <br /><br />As to a film of it, that's another matter and I don't think any is publicly available, if it exists. A pity.Tangocommuterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14060601718946750364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6115345479350954256.post-61943471258132715622015-01-29T13:53:13.256+00:002015-01-29T13:53:13.256+00:00I don't believe you will find video of what yo...I don't believe you will find video of what you are calling "Golden Age Foxtrot". In Argentina there seems to be no evidence of the sort of naming and standardisation of dance prevalent in England which resulted in English way becoming the basis of most ballroom around the World. <br /><br />To all kinds of (dance) music they would have socially danced in any appropriate way they could and some still do to this day.JohnMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00920966232193510959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6115345479350954256.post-9749747580565254792015-01-25T16:20:15.862+00:002015-01-25T16:20:15.862+00:00You're making so many criticisms without readi...You're making so many criticisms without reading what I wrote. I said I'm looking for a video of 'golden age' foxtrot. I believe Osvaldo was born in 1938, so would have learned 'golden age' foxtrot, like tango, from his parents' generation. <br /><br />Thanks for the links. Both show dancers having a lot of fun, but is that 'golden age' foxtrot? Is it any kind of foxtrot? Looks like swing/jive to me, with perhaps a bit of tango thrown in. <br /><br />& Oscar learned 'by watching the milongueros'? All credit to him, for that at least!<br />Tangocommuterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14060601718946750364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6115345479350954256.post-78161880882991291432015-01-21T17:06:19.056+00:002015-01-21T17:06:19.056+00:00Julio Alejo is 80.
https://www.youtube.com/watc...Julio Alejo is 80. <br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88iavCchGLs<br /><br />Alito is 85.<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ial0to9mY6EJanishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15193132193365389204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6115345479350954256.post-16093066946772884362015-01-21T16:34:12.364+00:002015-01-21T16:34:12.364+00:00Sorry TC, but you're giving credit where no cr...Sorry TC, but you're giving credit where no credit is due.<br /><br />Oscar Casas started dancing in Toronto, where he met his wife Mary Ann Henderson. What he dances now as foxtrot was learned by watching the milongueros.<br /><br />Osvaldo and Coca aren't old enough to have danced in the golden era 1935-1945. Better to ask Roberto Segarra who is 94 about it and others in their 80s.<br /><br />You're making so many assumptions without doing your research.Janishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15193132193365389204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6115345479350954256.post-33539801354134334382015-01-20T10:37:41.216+00:002015-01-20T10:37:41.216+00:00Many thanks, Matthias!
Ah yes, Rodriguez, of cour...Many thanks, Matthias!<br /><br />Ah yes, Rodriguez, of course. There are several Rodriguez versions of La Colegiala on YouTube: I like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-C_WEVIsA4 although the music seems to have moved away a bit from the jazz origins. <br /><br />& thanks for your link to the dance, but it needs surgery. This version works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKTWiLu1MXk <br />It resembles Oscar's version, so maybe this is close to the earlier Argentine foxtrot. As I said, there seems to be common ground between 1920 - 30s foxtrot, and some of the patterns we use in tango. But I'd still like to see how Osvaldo and Coca dance it, a direct link to the Argentine foxtrot of the golden era.<br /><br />Tangocommuterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14060601718946750364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6115345479350954256.post-73007468370467182952015-01-20T09:53:59.666+00:002015-01-20T09:53:59.666+00:00What about href="https://www.youtube.com/wat...What about <a rel="nofollow"> href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKTWiLu1MXk">that</a>? The steps look for me like the steps taught by Santos Casani. And, by the way, La Colegiala was already recorded by Enrique Rodriguez.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11326129893760343551noreply@blogger.com